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Old 07-26-2005, 10:01 PM
JABADAFLUSH JABADAFLUSH is offline
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Exclamation An unconfirmed MTT tip from a Pro.!!

I was browsing strategy forums and I came accross a chat thread in which it was suggested by Greg Raymer and this is (UNCONFIRMED) it really coulda been anyone, talked about a specific strategy during MTT's when a table has 4 more players betting at least half their chip stacks or going all in.
Of course the logical player would never call with 2 players all in unless they had a monster hand IE; AA, KK AK maybe AQ s; however his apparent strategy was that when you have this many callers it is highly likely that these players are playing monster hands or close to it. If you have this many callers chances are they would miss an IDEAL flop. In this case it was suggested that calling this many players with mid to high suited connectors may prove the winning hand. It makes sense when you think about it how many outs do you have compared to the other guy. Now the article goes on to say that you would have ideal posistion or in the blinds and of course the risk if you miss the flop is a SURE loss. I thought it was interesting and I have heard other players discuss this strategy. I cannot however find the link if I do I will post it.

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Old 07-27-2005, 06:03 PM
T-Rex86 T-Rex86 is offline
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Default Multiple all in calls

It depends on the stage of the MTT. During the early (rounds 1-4) going all in first makes little sense even with AA. Likewise, calling someone else's all in early is nigh onto insane no matter what you have. Why risk all your chips? In the later rounds there are good reasons for multiple all ins. For instance if the 1st all in is a desperate short stack and the second is minimally bigger why not call with favorable pot odds--or better yet, raise all in to chase out the vultures. Just remember, once someone's all in your implied odds are reduced because there's nothing further to win from your opponent.

In a satellite (which didn't go beyond round two) I was a mega-stack and two short stacks went all in. I called with A-10 os, normally a terrible play. They showed KK and JJ. I flopped an Ace. Adios to two players. If I had lost one would have been eliminated and the other would still have been way behind. Other than those sorts of situations I consider a third all in to be an overcall like any other--ill advised in most circumstances simply because the mathematical probability of winning is seldom much over 1/3.

If you're a desperate short stack, of course, it's heaven to triple when two callers match your all in, but it's essential to be the FIRSTall in. That's appropriate, but calling...I don't think so. I can't remember ever winning when I pushed my baby stack in vs. two all in's. One or the other had a very strong hand.
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